I’d have to say I go out pretty often, experiencing the night life that Austin has to offer and the many wondrous sites and adventures you can experience in one night are kind of hard to place into a nut shell. There are a vast amount of gorgeous people out there especially amongst the dance community. Knowing how to dance has helped me break the ice countless times to meet new people and enjoy the art 10 times better. But has anyone noticed that regardless of how much fun you are having with your partner male or female, things are not as they used to be in terms of devotion and chivalry? As if your kindness and dedication is now a days seen as a form of weakness and cowardice. Yes, definitely have fun and do your thang, shake your booty and whatever, but when it comes right down to it at some point don’t you want to know that your outreach for the same amounts of affection will come back to you ten fold?
I was raised old school, taught and nurtured by my grandparents. Always show respect, dignity, endless amounts of love and devotion to a woman you love or eventually will fall in love with. Both my grandparents grew up together in a small Mexican farm town, loved each other since grade school. Happily married with, of course, certain drawbacks here and there. Had 11 kids and lived off of a miniscule amount of money in a home jam packed with children but loved every moment of it. My grandfather always opening the door to his wife while around the house, at an outing or when entering their vehicle. He always told her every day she was amazing and beautiful. With the minimal amount they had and living beyond their means, he would manage to get her a little something to rekindle the romance and love from so many years ago. Eventually my grandmother passed away and from the day she left this earth, my grandfather mourned every waking moment for about 3 and a half years until his day came. They loved each other until their very last breathes.
Well, in giving this small history of what I grew up seeing and believing of this definition of love, I have harshly come to realize this no longer exists. I too have these same morals and etiquettes adopted by the atmosphere my grandparents portrayed in their home. I have yet to come across a woman who will appreciate these attributes. She would instead see them as a weakness and some what of an annoyance. I do definitely see that women are independent and have their own values and I will never disrespect that in any shape or form or have I ever. The fact that someone comes around with the qualities most women seek are right in front of them and in their grasp to instead decide to throw it away because its preferable to have someone who is completely opposite? I understand that media/entertainment has a lot to do with what many people in these generations now a days are being fed to believe that life and love is supposed to be complicated, rough and filled with drama.
Many times too often I walked down the streets of Austin during these blissful nights of partying and dancing that there are far too many people who show lack of respect in their relationships. People arguing all the time and not giving back the same affection and instead being shallow and disrespectful, yet the man or woman tends to crawl right back to them later on that night. How is it not comprehensible to believe that things don’t have to be that way and chivalry does exist and shouldn’t be seen as something hard to believe or too good to be true, and instead shunned away? I have had my fair share of the liars, the cheaters, the psychotic ones, and the indecisive ones as well. But all of which have the same thing to say, “You hold me up so high and make me feel very special around your friends“, and use it as a form of conflict in the relationship. That right there is something that till this very day doesn’t sit right with me.
Also, before anyone goes on and asks “where do you find these women?” or “you’re finding the same type of woman“, I would like to address I have never had a specific preference in a woman. My only concern is if she is fun to be around, loves to laugh, cares and is warm hearted. I have dated different races, ages (legal age of course :-P), cultural backgrounds, views, financial instabilities, and interests. We live in a town that has a fruit salad of many different kinds of women damn it! There is definitely a lot to pick from. Yet all of which find it hard to accept someone who still holds a woman up high with respect, dignity, and will not have any restraints showing their affection and love. The sacrifices endured to be with someone are easily gone unseen, the fact that its hard enough to live through life staying above water and living life as best as possible is ignored and made meaningless because a spoiled attribute arises within them.
With 300 dollars in my pocket started my life 7 years ago in this beautiful town of Austin and some way some how I made it and I’m doing great. But these minor hiccups that come around and shred you up from the inside when someone cannot fathom the possibility of happiness with one another takes its toll every so often. Now with all I have been through and all I have seen thus far I am still an optimist to this emotional invisible gift called love, because I cannot say all woman are the same because then the phrase “all men are the same” would have to be true too, and that is definitely not true if I know I’m not like every other guy. So not all women and men are the same, I suppose just life styles are changing and no longer in sync as before. So does anyone out there see the same signs as I have about chivalry being tossed to curb and walked on like a dirty dollar that no longer has value in this world? And are there any positive out look on finding a genuine person to be your soul mate that might cherish these qualities out in a bar or club while out and about having the time of your life? I know that at times peoples views and ideals are jaded by the glorious times one can have while enjoying the night life, but is the thought still lingering in the back of your head eating at you saying “damn I should’ve appreciated the fact that I once had a good thing, but decided to let it go” ? That is life I guess, just got to carry on carrying on.
wow theres a lot more feed back than i thought there would be on this topic.. thank you all for your inputs on this.. i have loved everything i have read so far.. the different and similar views we all share .. and thanx mtocci13
Excellent article, Bboy! I am proud of you for being true to yourself and the teachings of your grandparents. I remember when you started out here in Austin 7 years ago – you were adorable then and I love the upstanding young man you have become. Sadly, I tend to agree that chivalry is dying out. My granddads were both gentlemen to the max and taught all my uncles to be gentlemen. My brothers are of the same mind as you are – treat a lady with respect and dignity…show your affection…and I am disappointed in some of my sex. We are, as you say, independent and strong these days…that is no reason at all to crush someone’s sensibilities! If a man is gentleman enough to open a door for me, I, for one, will smile and say thanks!!!! I have taught my son to be a gentleman as well, and I told him if a young lady should disparage him (“I can open a door for myself!”) to simply beg her pardon and ask her to allow him to honor his parents’ teachings – even a “strong woman” can’t seem to resist honoring thy mother and father! If, however, she persists in being rude, that’s her problem, not his, but that has always worked for my brothers!!
At any rate, thank you so much for sharing your perspective on the subject…it’s quite an eye-opener, especially since I grew up with chivalrous men and would never equate chivalry and manners with weakness or cowardice. You continue to do what your grandparents taught you..it is honorable and impressive in this day and age, not weak or cowardly. Hugs to you! 🙂
Having heard this argument from you before I see your point of view. I think ultimately you should focus on having fun when dating, getting to know PEOPLE and not throwing the chivalry out at the girls right away. Allow her to earn it from you. Women want a partner in life, not someone to worship them. Once in a relationship, turn up the chivalry and that’s the best way to keep her forever. I do agree that not all women know how to gracefully accept chivalry from a man. I know I was very “I can do it myself thank you” at one point. It took a past relationship for me to learn that allowing a man to care for me was not a statement that I could not do it myself, rather I was allowing a gift to be given. As my ex said: “Your saying no to my paying or to my opening the door for you, or taking your jacket is like you throwing a present I gave you with love back in my face.” I started to accept alot more.
Since then I have a wonderful relationship with a man that I feel is my partner, my equal and I have received from him more than I would have ever imagined. It is a healthy, loving, caring relationship and I love it. I think anyone can find this so long as they keep the doors open, revolving and focus on getting to know PEOPLE, rather than trying to make people fit the mold of your perfect other. Get to know them, if it doesn’t mesh…next!
I believe in what you say to the fullest. No one is worried about trying to find that one thing anymore, at least not many. And if they say they are when they do find something they let it go, because Love is over-rated right? Ha, I’m not sure if anyone really knows what they want these days. When they stop thinking of only themselves and realize relationships are a two way street and affection is okay to accept; then maybe Love will exist in their world that spins only around them.
For the most part I agree chivalry has been forgotten but it isn’t dead. It’s definitely endangered and both men and women need to start realizing that sex isn’t everything. Pride most certainly isn’t everything either. Our generation seems to have adopted a negative connotation to the word LOVE. Love threatens our heart and the only way to keep this from happening is to mask our feelings: to play the game. It is said that the one that loves the least holds the power. But power isn’t happiness. Happiness is ultimately tied in with having healthy meaningful relationships along with pleasures and accomplishments. Unfortunately, our society has fooled our generation to seek greed, sex, and power as a way to satisfy our hunger for happiness and love. To get lost in love and risk losing it all is something both tragic and beautiful. Chivalry is an extension to the fairytale we’ve been forced to forget. To find a man who honors us and protects us should be a rarity that we should fight to keep however this idea…this reality is rejected by our mind. For now, it has evolved into nothing more than trickery: the art of the game, of getting played.
– How in this day and age is it possible that someone might think “I” am that special to treat me that well. –
And again, we shall not loose power. It is better to avoid than to believe in something so wonderful. I can honestly argue with both sides of the fence. I could sit here and fight my way into defending the women that believe “it’s too good to be true” or by the same token blame women for loosing their sense of worth. I too have met that occasional guy that still opens the door for me, pulls my chair out before I sit and I can’t help but wonder if these actions are part of a master scheme to get into my heart or into my pants. So, for those hopeless romantics like myself out there I say this: Let’s keep it real. Chivalry isn’t for everyone just the same as those late night booty calls aren’t. There’s someone for everyone. And they’re tailored to fit your every need. I just hope that we are wise enough to realize what we have when we have it. Speaking from a heart thats been through heartbreak and disappointment I understand it may be harder to keep and open mind and an open heart… but what is love without faith and hope…? 🙂 I shall wait for my knight in shining armor.
@ maryquita.. thanx for your input on this topic and i am very happy to hear your son is being handed down true qualities that will be cherished by everyone
@ruthberny.. sometimes i suppose it takes time for someone to realize that accepting a good thing is something to hold as a gift rather than being seen as a crutch to further ur progression in love .. love what you had to say thank you for your feed back
@CrystalStar85… you have a valid point there .. some individuals selfish tendencies do hinder them from noticing exactly what is great and wonderful this world really has to offer.. thanx for your two cents 😀
@pcaromed… as i had pointed out briefly about media and how it has clouded the generations of today, you too have a really strong rebuttle on that section,.. loved what you had to say, good job on speaking your mind thank you for commenting ..
thank you all for your piece of mind its good to hear all sides and different angles of this topic
Wow!!! I’m at a loss for words right now.Thank you, Queso, for putting the thought of CHIVALRY back out there! I’m not perfect but if anyone looks up chivalry in the dictionary they’ll see a pic of me.
I’m not a fan of chivalry. I believe Ur mate is Ur mate, not Ur queen. It doesn’t mean that u shouldn’t be doing nice things for her. That’s fine, however, she shouldn’t “expect” u to open a door or whatver either. I remember when I dated this girl that woke me up at 4am in the more talking about “hey.. I’m thirsty” lol. Whoot. That was the late time I saw her haha
Anyhow. More respect for ya man, but chivalry died back in the old midevil night days to me 🙂
And I have to say.. Nowadays, girls like the bad boy or the complete douche bags. Ever find yourself saying.. “how the hell did she end up with him??”. Well it’s how the world is. Disagree if ya want but it’s true!
thanx for leaving your feed back brotha … all sides and views are welcome … and you definelty have a strong valid point on the bad boy/douche bag attraction that many women are attracted to .. i have grown to see that pretty often… kinda sux ..
Most interesting view of todays society. If chivalry has been lost, and for the main-stream people it has, we need not look any farther then how we were raised. Hello Mom & Dad, thanks for raising me in a loving family and enviroment!! We have all heard the old saying, “You are what you eat”, well we are what our parents are also. I was raised in a very loving family enviroment and share many of the same qualities as bboyQueso talks about. In today’s society we have all but lost family values, religion, respect, and self-worth. We are quicker to believe what we see on TV and the gossip we hear from friends every day, then what is really happening right in front of us.
But all is not lost, for those of us who believes in ourselfs and know our own self-worth, we will find what we are looking for when we look in the right places. For people like us going out to McD’s for some fast-food doesn’t cut it, we are striving for the ultimate diner, ambience, quality, and healthy nourishment. Today’s people have been raised not to sit down and enjoy a healty meal, but they have to be on the run from sun-up until sundown and then some. I highly doubt you are going to find True Love at some bar, so a change of scene will be neccessary to find what you are looking for… If you want a new car you don’t go to a used car lot; likewise, if you want a women who appreciates chivalry, you need to start looking where real families enjoy life.